1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:29,920 The earliest documented reports of strange objects in the sky essentially 2 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,240 define them similarly to early descriptions of flying saucers. 3 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,280 In the 1600s, reports of strange lights off the coast of the Americas define some of the 4 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:46,940 earliest known types of UFO sightings, while in the 1700s, settlers in the New England areas 5 00:00:46,940 --> 00:00:52,880 recall descriptions of hovering orbs in the skies above the waterways around Boston. 6 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Today, it's not just flying saucers or lights in the sky that experiencers encounter. 7 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:06,120 Cigar shaped craft, tic-tacs from space, and yes, the black triangles. 8 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,600 Triangular shaped craft began gaining notoriety during the 1980s when a wave of sightings 9 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,880 swept across the Hudson Valley. 10 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:25,520 But it wasn't until 1997 that the national media began focusing on them. 11 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 My name is Lynn D. Ketay M.D. 12 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:35,200 I am a medical doctor, had no interest or knowledge in this topic at all, till what 13 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:42,480 would become the most historic, most documented, and the most important mass anomalous aerial 14 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,000 sighting in modern history, if not all of history, called the Phoenix Lights. 15 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 My husband and I are physicians, and healthy skeptics. 16 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,520 One must be when you're a physician. 17 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,440 We had a very close sighting to our home. 18 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,880 We lived mountainside in Paradise Valley, pretty high on the mountain, and have a panoramic 19 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,880 view of the city skyline, so we know what planes look like in helicopters and street 20 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,760 lights and so forth. 21 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:12,080 These phenomena were very different than anything we'd ever seen before. 22 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,360 In fact, my husband called me to one wall of our bedroom is a window, so we see whatever 23 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,120 pops up out there. 24 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,280 And he noticed that there were three amber orbs, a little below us. 25 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,840 They were very treacherous desert landscape. 26 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,120 We live in a gated community nestled in the mountains, so there is no way that it could 27 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,120 have been military. 28 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:40,840 And here, these three orbs in a pyramid formation, one on top and two underneath, were just hovering 29 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,720 there. 30 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:48,400 And most people that have these anomalous experiences don't move. 31 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,720 They're in awe. 32 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,520 And I wanted to take everything in mentally, the size, the shape, the color. 33 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,640 These orbs were about three to six feet each, depending on how close they were. 34 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:06,440 They were actually oval shape, like an egg on its side, or like what Navy pilots are 35 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,000 now describing as tic-tac shape. 36 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,920 It was a uniform amber color throughout, and it didn't glare at all. 37 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:15,320 Every other light out there glared. 38 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,800 And my husband calls me back, he says, get over here quick, one of them is disappearing. 39 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:28,240 And as we both watched and awe, the top orb, without budging from the other two underneath, 40 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:37,360 started to implode, shrink, almost like a dimmer switch, getting smaller and smaller 41 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,080 and smaller. 42 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Dr. Kite's sighting would be the first of three that culminated with the mass sighting 43 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,320 on March 13th of what would become widely known as the Phoenix Lights incident. 44 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Between 1995 and 1997, Lynn would begin studying the UFO subject, and paid closer attention 45 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,000 to the sky above her desert home. 46 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Lynn's next sighting would occur in January 1997, two months prior to the Phoenix anomaly. 47 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,040 But what she witnessed that night bears close similarities to the craft that would make 48 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,000 its way overhead in March later that same year. 49 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:22,560 I was lying in bed, and I happened to notice three huge amber ores, but at a distance, far 50 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,560 west. 51 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,440 And I thought, wait a minute, they're amber. 52 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:32,520 They're in a line formation, they're hovering for moments, minutes, which is ironic because 53 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,960 two months later, thousands of people who saw the Phoenix Lights phenomenon on March 54 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,720 13th, 1997, would describe them as five lights in a V formation with two trailing. 55 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,160 But this was two months before. 56 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:53,200 And I watched as each one imploded, they seemed to shrink from right to left, and they were 57 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:53,600 gone. 58 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Now, triangles and tic-tacs are weird enough. 59 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,840 But the history of unidentified objects in the US goes back further than most people 60 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:27,000 realize. 61 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,960 In researching the UFO subject, I found a string of reports of unidentified craft which 62 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:38,720 hovered over major cities and small towns alike, seemingly wanting to be seen. 63 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:45,640 No, this wasn't the Phoenix Lights or any number of other modern-day mass-citing events, 64 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,120 it was the Great Airship Waves. 65 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,880 And they occurred well over a century ago. 66 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:57,720 To start to understand the full scope of what is being seen overhead today, it's almost 67 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,800 a necessity to take a look back at what people were seeing in the past. 68 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:07,760 To look back through American history, there's probably no better place to start than New 69 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,760 York. 70 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,280 And there's few as schooled in the history of strange objects in the sky than Linda 71 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,240 Zimmerman. 72 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Linda is a researcher and author located in upstate New York, who has written a number 73 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:26,960 of books on UFOs, particularly of sightings and encounters in the Hudson Valley area. 74 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Linda's knowledge of the UFO subject comes from a lifelong interest in the phenomenon 75 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,080 and from decades' worth of experience interviewing witnesses. 76 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:44,280 The oldest sightings I'm aware of are probably in the 1700s, colonial accounts of strange 77 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,600 objects in the sky, certainly by the 1800s there were a lot. 78 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:55,960 The biggest earliest wave that I've been able to find was 1908, 1909. 79 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:01,440 The mysterious airships, as they called them, they weren't called UFOs yet. 80 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,440 But these were enormous craft that could hover. 81 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:12,080 They could fly an extremely high rate of speed and carried one to three extremely bright 82 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,120 spotlights. 83 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:22,960 There simply were no craft that we mere mortals had at that point that had those flight characteristics 84 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,400 didn't exist. 85 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,640 These cases are just incredible. 86 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,440 I remember reading about them years ago. 87 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,880 They dubbed them airships. 88 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,860 So in the 1890s there was this whole outbreak of sightings and encounters that people were 89 00:08:34,860 --> 00:08:36,360 having with airships. 90 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,440 They didn't know what else to call them. 91 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:44,440 And they actually looked like, for me it kind of evokes sort of a steampunk version of a 92 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,720 zeppelin or something because you read these cases and these people are talking about these 93 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,280 massive ships. 94 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Sometimes there's different kind of gears and fins and things like that. 95 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,280 They see these crafts, sometimes they land, sometimes they encounter the occupants. 96 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:03,720 A lot of them were described as gloom or zephyrs or that sort of thing. 97 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Although dirigibles of this type were not very popular, especially not here in the United 98 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,040 States. 99 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:17,440 There was a little bit of research into that but most of that was going on in Europe. 100 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:24,440 In the area where I live in the Southern Hudson Valley there were sightings many, many nights. 101 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Airships would be out commenting on these enormous bright lights like as if they were 102 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,040 searching for something. 103 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Worcester, Massachusetts in Christmas of 1909, tens of thousands of people were just spilling 104 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:46,440 out of their homes and businesses to see the mysterious airships that sometimes would circle 105 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,320 overhead for hours and hours. 106 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,920 You get these farmers and people living in rural areas who really just don't know what 107 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:55,920 to think. 108 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,040 All of a sudden there's this flying craft. 109 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:04,240 You can imagine what that was like in the late 1800s, you know, well before airplanes 110 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,240 and so forth. 111 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Suddenly there were these huge ships that are coming down from somewhere. 112 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,080 One night there was a sighting. 113 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:17,280 It went as far from New York City to Boston in a single night, witnesses all along the 114 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,280 way. 115 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,720 These were just long sustained flights. 116 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,680 These are some of the earliest cases that we get. 117 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:30,920 This whole rash of airship sightings and encounters are sort of a subset of the identifications 118 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,400 of UFOs. 119 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,880 When you see these stunning reports basically from here to Canada and out to the Midwest 120 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,720 over a two year period, how else do you explain that? 121 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,000 When people were seeing that sort of thing here in the United States I think that really 122 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,480 was a genuine mystery. 123 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:56,640 When we get into later periods of course descriptions get somewhat more consistent, but only to 124 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,640 a degree. 125 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Dean Merchant is something of a ufological historian. 126 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,000 He's based in New Hampshire, not far from the site of one of the more famous encounter 127 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,120 stories near Exeter. 128 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,400 It's apparent that his love of the subject has placed him in a unique position as a gatekeeper 129 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,920 for information that others might otherwise let slip through the cracks. 130 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,560 So Kenneth Ottel was a really cool part of the UFO history. 131 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:32,000 He was a pilot himself. 132 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,360 He saw, I had been seven craft and they have to check on that, but he saw the craft and 133 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,040 he kind of chased out and got a very good look at him. 134 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,400 He knew that this was something that was not basically of this world. 135 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:47,680 He came back and reported them and talked about them, trying to describe how they acted. 136 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:52,680 He said if you could picture a saucer skipping on the water and that kind of was coined. 137 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:58,280 But actually a lot of them, see I have just in just shapes, these were more of the wing 138 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,600 like the B2 stealth bomber which interests me. 139 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,280 They had that kind of flying wing shape that he saw. 140 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,920 At that time this became a great interest for the press. 141 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,440 The movie genre was going to be starting soon. 142 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,200 All of this stuff was milling around post world work too, just about to hit the early 50s. 143 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,200 So there was a lot of interest with the media. 144 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:29,360 Stan Gordon has been taking reports of UFOs in the state of Pennsylvania since the 1960s. 145 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,240 In that time he's become known as the go-to source of information relating to anomalous 146 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,120 phenomena on the western edge of the state. 147 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,920 And he's authored multiple books on a number of strange subjects. 148 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,640 He's also spent decades researching a purported crash of one of America's many supposed 149 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,640 crashed unknown objects near the village of Kecksburg. 150 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:56,240 Which makes him a very valuable resource when it comes to identifying trends, if they exist, 151 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,240 in craft descriptions. 152 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Well of course going back many, many years and you still get some of these reports. 153 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,240 You had your typical big disc. 154 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:10,080 And I can tell you during the 1960s there were many, many incidents here in Pennsylvania. 155 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:16,920 A very large structured metallic objects, big discs, many with portholes in it, very 156 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,600 low to the ground. 157 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:24,320 There's a common accepted idea of the flying saucer, you know, that literally looks like 158 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,240 maybe a pair of plates, you know, or a saucer. 159 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,800 If you turn it upside down that's flying. 160 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 A lot of people were reporting those types of crafts. 161 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,880 And there were landing reports. 162 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,400 In fact there was one that happened only a mile from where we were sitting a year ago. 163 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,720 Probably one of my favorite stories. 164 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,800 Unfortunately both witnesses are now deceased. 165 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,800 There were two brothers. 166 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,800 It was February 1968. 167 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,440 The older brother gets married in February 1968 and he and his new wife, they rent a small 168 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,520 farmhouse not far from here. 169 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:55,080 One afternoon we look out the window, about 50 feet off the ground, here's this huge metallic 170 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,680 dome shaped object with portholes like a catwalk hovering right there. 171 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,360 He can't believe what he's seeing. 172 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:06,120 He steps outside, he calls his wife and as we're looking at this thing these small little 173 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,920 humanoid creatures come out on the catwalk like communicating with each other and they'll 174 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,040 look directly at them. 175 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,480 It's starting to snow. 176 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,280 He goes back in the house, he calls his brother in Greensburg who believed in this. 177 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,400 He and his wife come out. 178 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,520 When they get there it's still there but it's about 100 feet off the ground. 179 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,480 It's starting to snow pretty good and as they watch this thing suddenly it shoots off across 180 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:32,240 the sky into the heavens, looks like a red star crossing the sky and disappears. 181 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,040 And they call the local airport and they said, you're one of many people calling in and report 182 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,720 the same thing. 183 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,640 There would be variations on them. 184 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Sometimes they would have windows along the side, sometimes a window on the top or dome. 185 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:51,360 1930s we started getting circular craft, you know your classic flying saucers. 186 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Certainly that was the model of choice in the 40s and 50s and early 60s. 187 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 But then we have all these other variations of these ships. 188 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,880 The cigar shape is another one that was really reported quite often initially and that was 189 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,520 this idea that it was a larger craft going back to that balloon type of shape or zeppelin 190 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,080 type of shape but it's more of a metallic looking cigar shape. 191 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,200 We have many reports for years and years of the big metallic cigar shaped object including 192 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:25,040 as we're filming here in the last week some very detailed sightings up in Cambria County 193 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,800 where something like this is being seen by independent observers 100 feet, 200 feet off 194 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,040 the ground. 195 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,640 Very close range reports coming in. 196 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:39,640 Do you notice a, I don't know if this is just me, but do you notice a weird sort of correlation 197 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:46,760 between UFO descriptions and the era in which they're taking place technologically? 198 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,320 So there are phases that go on. 199 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:55,040 The typical flying saucer, the round disc shaped object that we saw so much in the 50s 200 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,600 seemed to be you know more of something that was happening during that era and we haven't 201 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,600 seen so much since then. 202 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,880 So there are kind of trends that seem to happen here and there. 203 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Gee, weird. 204 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:16,760 In the midst of that we also had craft that resembled a little bit closer to the bomber, 205 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,600 the stealth bomber. 206 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,640 Then the triangles, the triangles, Vs and boomerangs of the 1980s. 207 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:36,220 The signature events of the waves of the 1980s were triangular shaped craft that almost always 208 00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:42,640 were described as the size of a football field would descend down to treetop level. 209 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,600 I had people tell me they could have hit it with a baseball or rock, a tennis ball. 210 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,680 That's how close these were. 211 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:55,760 Larger craft that reported for instance in the Phoenix lights, you know these massive, 212 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,800 hesitate to use the word almost, but mother ships you know has some people dubbed them. 213 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,800 Absolutely silent. 214 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Most people said eerily quiet, dead silent. 215 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:11,760 One witness said it was like a city of lights, hundreds and hundreds of multicolored lights. 216 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:20,240 Triangles where something new, that wasn't something as abundant as it has been more 217 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,240 recently. 218 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Although, these triangles sightings have been going on for quite some time, but it just 219 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,920 seems like more. 220 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:38,680 So again, the ability to hover in place for extremely long periods of time and then shoot 221 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,920 off in the blink of an eye. 222 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,080 There was one man that impressed me in particular, Mike Hartnett. 223 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:51,800 He actually became one of the highest ranking members of the New York City fire department. 224 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:58,200 This was not a skittish man at all and he had one of these massive triangles move very, 225 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:04,080 very slowly over his house and being one of New York's bravest he got a very bright like 226 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:11,720 million candle power light and he flashed it at this object and in response all of its 227 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:17,320 lights dimmed and then came back on in direct response to him. 228 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:25,320 Sean Kevin Jason witnessed a black triangle for himself on a desert road somewhere between 229 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,360 Las Vegas and Rachel Nevada. 230 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:33,320 Sean has spent a time following his sighting, further exploring the subject and fully admits 231 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,480 he hopes to have another encounter. 232 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,280 What Sean witnessed though is distinctly different from the Phoenix lights phenomenon or the 233 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,880 typical triangular shaped UFO craft descriptions and his theories as to what was piloting the 234 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,160 craft make his sighting stand out. 235 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,560 It was a slow night. 236 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Business was slow. 237 00:18:54,560 --> 00:19:01,240 Jumped on the highway headed out of town until I hit the apex exit and got off at apex 238 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:07,080 where you head on 93 highway 93 heading towards area 51 right when I'm getting to the end 239 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:12,320 of that turn off in the distance I see these lights by this time it was a right around 240 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,680 10 o'clock. 241 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,080 I see lights off the head and I think okay you know there's another car ahead in my 242 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,840 way didn't think anything of it at first and continued driving. 243 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,320 I was a little concerned because you know this was the time before cell phones that 244 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,680 sort of thing so if someone's in trouble am I going to stop to help them. 245 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:36,200 So I'm driving a little ways thinking about this when it dawned on me that lights were 246 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,200 not on the road they're hovering over the road because I can see the lights over the 247 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,160 road and then I can see the illuminated road underneath these lights. 248 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,880 So I had a pair of binoculars with me and I decided to try to get a view of the craft 249 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,040 through my binoculars as I'm driving. 250 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,240 I'm trying to drive while I'm using them at the same time I can definitely see the lights 251 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,240 better with the binoculars and tell something for sure is over the road. 252 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,040 So I had tossed binoculars in my back seat and decided to just floor it you know push 253 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,120 the car as fast as I could to get there before this craft leaves. 254 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:14,200 It didn't take long at all before I found myself pulling up underneath the craft and 255 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,480 parking my car. 256 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:22,000 There's lights and a delta formation like this and it's just a pitch black craft perfect 257 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,960 equilateral triangle you know it's hovering roughly around 20 feet over the road completely 258 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,400 silent making no noise at all. 259 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,280 The craft was actually darker than the sky behind it. 260 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:38,240 I'm sitting there and just dumbfounded you know and all. 261 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,480 At one point I decided to pinch my arm just kind of like you know am I really awake it's 262 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:51,000 just really happening and I had done so so hard that I wanted to draw blood from my arm. 263 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,960 So I'm thinking if I can grab my binoculars I might be able to make out any logo or you 264 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:57,960 know identification. 265 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,360 I had thrown them in the back seat so I turned around see them right away they were lying 266 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:09,800 on the floor behind the passenger seat grabbed them turned back around and the craft is gone. 267 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,800 And I'm thinking at this point you know it's totally gone I'm not going to see it again 268 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,000 so I start scanning the horizon. 269 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:22,320 I catch it again to my seven o'clock position and it actually got a good ways down the valley 270 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,880 from me and just that short period of time. 271 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:29,960 Like I said it was flying to the seven o'clock position and then it made a right heading 272 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,200 you know basically north towards the mountains. 273 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,760 It's just a bizarre thing to see as this thing slowly crept up the side of the mountain 274 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,280 and you see it hit the top and it just drops down the other side of it. 275 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:03,400 So today we know that a number of early sightings of triangular shaped craft might be written 276 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:10,760 off as stealth bombers undergoing testing particularly in the western part of the country. 277 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:19,080 It doesn't account however for the large number of sightings in recent years and certainly 278 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,200 can't account for the sightings of craft that seem to be city sized. 279 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:29,720 Still more recently the face of the phenomena continues to change and this is evidenced in 280 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:35,800 the abbreviation used by many within the research community changing from UFO for unidentified 281 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,040 flying object to UAP for unidentified aerial phenomena. 282 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,200 Tic-Tacs and craft referred to as gimbals are being seen in the skies and further along 283 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,840 we come the more obvious it is that we are leaving behind the days of only reports of 284 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,200 the classic flying saucers. 285 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:05,200 But like the old adage goes more things change the more they stay the same. 286 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,320 So you've got all these different reports from so many different people just like the 287 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,400 sighting last week on Canberra County. 288 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:19,400 I got the first report that evening from a witness who saw this thing very low very foggy area 289 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:25,920 big solid cigar shape object but he said the entire object was glowing luminous not separate 290 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,360 windows it was completely luminous he said it would suddenly fade out and disappear reappear 291 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:36,040 again fade out and disappear and it's gone and this got very familiar with aircraft. 292 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,960 When I was talking about these military encounters typically what they're encountering is an 293 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:48,040 orb of light some kind of bright round or elliptical shaped object and that's been going on for years. 294 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:55,200 The most typical craft that have been reported to me personally have been mostly triangular 295 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:00,960 or mostly lights just lights in the sky whether it's orbs or just unnatural formations of 296 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:07,960 lights that seems to be where we are right now in terms of the the amount of reports 297 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,960 coming in a lot of people think that UFO reports have dwindled a lot in the past decade or so 298 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:21,960 I don't know if it's what that is what that represents but there seems to be a decrease in the amount of UFOs being reported. 299 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,960 The ones being reported are mostly lights in the sky I would say. 300 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:33,960 In the 1800s it was balloons and wooden ships that sort of thing you know in the 40s and 50s 301 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:41,960 especially once we started building our jets they were typically shiny silver craft when the F-117 came around 302 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:49,960 and the B-2 stealth bomber now we're getting into black triangular designs but it's curious that the dimensions 303 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:58,960 to shape the color of these craft often mirror where our aviation is at the time. 304 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,960 What's become more apparent in recent years is the bleeding together of various quote-unquote 305 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,960 craft shapes and sizes. 306 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:13,960 Small craft are seen gaining mass while large craft dwindle to small lights that flitter away in the night sky 307 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,960 like ashes from a dying fire. 308 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:26,960 All of this points to just one reason why many consider the Phoenix Lights event of 1997 one of the most fascinating cases in recent memory. 309 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:34,960 On March 13th 1997 between the hours of 7.30 in 10.30 p.m. thousands of people across the city of Phoenix 310 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:42,960 and the surrounding area witnessed a series of lights in a V formation floating across the night sky. 311 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:51,960 The event encompassed a number of descriptive regarding UAPs that helps illustrate just how varied these strange things people are seeing can be. 312 00:25:51,960 --> 00:26:00,960 In 1997 there was an incident called the Phoenix Lights incident and it's become probably one of the most famous cases in recent UFO history. 313 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:12,960 It involved a large number of people obviously in the Phoenix area who reported seeing a massive craft moving through the sky completely silent. 314 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Many people called and most people called between 8 and 10 that night because most people were outside looking up at the Hava Kamen at that time. 315 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:30,960 But the mass sighting of anomalous aerial phenomena would not only appear in Arizona but starting at 3 p.m. in the afternoon 316 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,960 daylight sighting in Arizona. 317 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:39,960 5 o'clock hour they were seen by Native Americans in New Mexico. 7 o'clock hour in California. 318 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:53,960 11 o'clock hour they were actually reported by two separate airline commercial pilots who reported one of these massive over mile wide craft covering Las Vegas. 319 00:26:53,960 --> 00:27:03,960 In his time working with Aerojet Ron Regier was tasked with multiple classified projects. Chief of which was the Defense Support Program. 320 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:11,960 A satellite used to keep a close watch on the airspace above the United States as well as the rest of the world. 321 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:21,960 In his time involved in the program he witnessed a number of unusual phenomena detected on the infrared system including the Phoenix Lights. 322 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:29,960 The Phoenix Lights which everybody's heard of we tracked those from just south of area 51 down to Tucson. 323 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,960 When you say track them can you elaborate on that a little bit? 324 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Yeah our satellite is in geosynchronous Earth orbits so it's always looking and we put three of them around the Earth and that gives us full binary vision coverage of the entire Earth's surface 24-7. 325 00:27:48,960 --> 00:28:00,960 Phoenix Lights we first picked those up just south of area 51 which is northeast of Las Vegas. Don't know where originated from or that's just when it became within our spectrum. 326 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:08,960 It came all the way down past Phoenix and then went down and then went out of sight just north of Tucson. 327 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960 Do you know how big that was or how big it might have been? 328 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Well it could be eight separate objects or it could have been one big object. I don't know. 329 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Air traffic controllers at Sky Harbor International Airport so the same exact thing took their high powered binoculars to look and what they described was six equidistant points of light that seemed to be attached to something over a mile wide. 330 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:54,960 But they couldn't quite see what these lights were attached to and you would hear that again by thousands of people and they were alarmed because there is a 30 mile radius around the center of the airport called class B restricted airspace. 331 00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:02,960 Anyone that comes into that airspace especially a thousand feet altitude that these were must call into the tower but no one did. 332 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,960 Often these sightings the craft or whatever it is seems to be wanting people to see it. 333 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:17,960 So it's not like people see triangle craft often but when they do see them they're often extraordinary circumstances. 334 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,960 For instance you know you've got the Phoenix lights that happened in in 97 and that was a big deal. 335 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,960 Governor Friess Simington says he saw those lights and what he says is taken seriously. 336 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:37,960 He goes as far as to say he believes that they are from somewhere else that what he saw was a craft from from out of this world essentially. 337 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:51,960 The last report I received credible report personally was from a Boeing crewman who was coming into work with his crew at 5 30 a.m. the next morning at Sky Harbor International Airport. 338 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,960 And so one of these mile wide craft hovering over their tarmac. 339 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:05,960 So it was for many many hours over a dozen hours and there were many activities happening in many areas at the same time during the mass sighting. 340 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:15,960 A lot of people don't realize actually that the Phoenix lights were also seen in Nevada and the Vegas area and other regions. 341 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:22,960 So this was a very concentrated wave of sightings that a large number of witnesses saw. 342 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,960 And the fascinating thing about that is that again we still have no answers. 343 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:43,960 Now we have really evolved since the 90s to actually looking at the data now that more and more credible people are coming forward including our own former Arizona governor. 344 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Who admits that he saw one of these mile wide craft and that it was otherworldly. 345 00:30:50,960 --> 00:31:01,960 And now that Navy pilots are coming forward and sharing that what they're seeing the technology is so far passes any technology that we have here on art that we know about. 346 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:12,960 The whole thing is really evolving to a good place a much better place of people being ready being ready to learn about the topic and being ready to accept the technology. 347 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,960 That this is real. 348 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:32,960 At the turn of the 20th century it was airships which became flying saucers which became cigar shaped objects and then triangles and on and on. 349 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,960 This is where it was first seen or they were first seen the Phoenix lights. 350 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:51,960 The phenomena first appeared in the sky above the Prescott Valley then moved over the town of Dewey before finally making its way over the city in the direction of Sky Harbor Airport. 351 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:03,960 It's a sobering thing to come to a place like this and look up into the same sky where something so important happened over 20 years ago. 352 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Before a lot of witnesses the event passes and is then forgotten. 353 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:19,960 A string of lights passing in the night no doubt was easily forgotten for most people when they're completely unaware that what they're seeing is something extraordinary. 354 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,960 But for others like Lynn it was the beginning. 355 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,960 A door opened she stepped through and now there won't be any going back. 356 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:41,960 It makes you feel very small to stare up into the sky and wonder if they're still here and if they are and you're one of those who catch a glimpse. 357 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,960 Just what it is you'll see. 358 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,960 Coming up on the next episode of On the Trail of UFOs. 359 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:04,960 Over the last several weeks of people in this area have been reporting high altitude objects in the sky they're not familiar with. 360 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:11,960 You'll find that there are areas particularly in the United States and around the world that seemingly have a high concentration of sightings. 361 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,960 Places like Point Pleasant West Virginia or Chestnut Ridge, Sedona. 362 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,960 So the Hudson Valley UFO waves started with the police and kind of ended with the police. 363 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960 They actually investigated all these cases. 364 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 365 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 366 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 367 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 368 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 369 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 370 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 371 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,960 They found out that the UFOs were in the area. 372 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,960 They found out that the UFOs were 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